New Plan

"Denver Is Stuck In The 90s" (denver80222)
03/01/2016 at 17:47 • Filed to: Danger Denver's 5.0 Ranger Swap

Turbo 5.0 Swap with a Junkyard 5.0. Thanks Nibbles for finding the correct emissions regulations documents. Gonna try to get it done by Summer 2017. My timing cover leaks about a quart every 3000 miles. I think I’ll just let it leak until then. No more engine work on my Ranger unless I absolutely have to until I can start the V8 swap.

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This is gonna be goooood. Should be putting out around 270hp mated to a Junkyard T5 and my stock 3.55 Traction-Lock Rear end.

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DISCUSSION (40)

TheOnelectronic > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:50

5 liter V8

270hp

Honestly I think the recession was the best thing that ever happened to the big three.

Nonetheless, I love swaps like this. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun (or a nightmare)

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > TheOnelectronic
03/01/2016 at 17:52

Both. It’s gonna be both. And it’ll be awesome.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > TheOnelectronic
03/01/2016 at 17:52

I want this to be DDable once its done

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:54

It will. Just a small pita to get that motor in.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:55

Is...is the turbo really needed? That’s just unnecessary complication and added unreliability on a decently powerful as it is V8. Hell even a supercharger would be a better option.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car
03/01/2016 at 17:56

eh, itll be okay

EL_ULY > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:57

Told ya!

Slant6 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:57

Why not just buy a running 5.0 and skip the rebuild?

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:57

We’ll make it work.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 17:57

The turbo was Jakes Idea. but if he can get it to work, Im okay with it

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 17:58

Because I have a few turbos already. And that 50-60 hp gain is noticeable.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Slant6
03/01/2016 at 17:58

cuz I dont wanna pull it when something goes

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 17:59

Don’t forget to factor in the cost of a transfer case adapter.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car
03/01/2016 at 18:00

You have a few, but do you have any idea how complicated it is to set up and route a turbo?

Jcarr > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:00

Is the engine bay roughly the same as a same-year Explorer? IIRC the Explorer used the 302 during that time period in addition to the 4.0.

Also, if you’re gonna do all that work, at least spend more than $40 on oil and a filter ;)

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:00

I’m gonna say it again: Supercharger. Much easier to set up than routing turbo BS.

Slant6 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:02

Why not modular?

Slant6 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:07

You forgot brakes and suspension. You’ll be going faster, so you’ll need better brakes to operate safely. Also the V8 weighs more so suspension designed for a 4.0 will sag.

Also I hope you don’t plan on running this with a 7.5 rear.

I Will Always Be The Honey Badger > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:09

if 270hp is your goal, then forced induction is a major pain you can do without. If you’re going to rebuild it anyway, have comp cams spec you out a bigger and better cam, get some higher compression pistons, better intake manifold, and some headers. 300 hp should be doable on the stock heads and will be all a T5 can handle. if you’re serious about this project, then a simple N/A build is your best bet to put a smile on your face at the end of the day.

I Will Always Be The Honey Badger > Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car
03/01/2016 at 18:14

Given that I have no idea what your skill or experience is, I have to ask if you’ve done a turbo build before.

Slant6 > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:15

Wait, why not just turbo the 4.0?

I’d also like to remind you that you don’t need any of this, not even a rebuild of your 4.0. It’s a truck, drive it to the ground.

Gone > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:17

That thing will eat T5s like candy. Also, no clutch/flywheel? This is a cool idea and all, but look at doubling your budget to be realistic. You’ll need a TwEECer or similar for programming fuel tables, air-air IC, headers or something to adapt a turbo too, clutch quad, adj cable, among other things.

Not sure if your truck is stick, but if not, you get to cut a hole in the floor, put in a 3 pedal setup, figure out how/where to mount the clutch quadrant, punch a hole in the firewall, run a cable, etc.

Being at altitude, forced air is a good idea but adds a lot of complications. I would build a TW headed NA 5.0, but I’m at sea level. Just bolt on a Vortech S-trim with an FPR to it, add an AOD (and off the shelf well built 2200 ‘vertor) w/Baumannator controls, and walk away. Basic late 90s junk which you can find a lot of used parts on the Corral/Craigslist. Or keep a stack of T5s around like cordwood.

TheHondaBro > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 18:28

This. Superchargers make things sound good.

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > Jcarr
03/01/2016 at 18:29

He works at O’reilly so there’s a discount there.

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > I Will Always Be The Honey Badger
03/01/2016 at 18:29

I have. I also have the turbo.

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > I Will Always Be The Honey Badger
03/01/2016 at 18:30

$$$

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > Slant6
03/01/2016 at 18:31

8.8

Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
03/01/2016 at 18:31

RWD

TahoeSTi > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 18:46

I have a 5.0 mustang and I’m on my 4th t5. I would highly recommend a better transmission especially if you are going turbo....That said I have a Gforce t5 that needs a new 3rd gear....it’s 28 spline input shaft with a 2.95 first gear, I also have 2 stock t5 cores ready to rebuild.

TahoeSTi > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 18:47

But you can’t build a Junk Yard Supercharger setup for cheap.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > TahoeSTi
03/01/2016 at 18:51

If there’s one thing that says ticking time bomb, it’s the term “cheap junkyard turbo”

TahoeSTi > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 18:54

Ehh, just get another one when the turbo blows, or start with a Holset turbo. Turbos break all the time hell my TDI jetta’s went at 85,000 miles on a factory stock car. Dealership wanted $4000 to fix it, Aftermarket trubo, exhaust, and tune was only $2k. When things like turbo break it’s just a sign that it’s time to upgrade.

DoYouEvenShift > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
03/01/2016 at 19:00

Ageed.

Also fuel system, tuning, misc supporting hardware gets very expensive. A decent wastegate and BOV are expensive by themselves.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Slant6
03/01/2016 at 19:03

Modulars are fucking HUGE

Kinja'd!!!

And the ranger requires clearancing for the little 302 as it is.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 19:05

It’d be waaaay easier to get that power using NA goodies such as GT40p heads and an E303 cam.

Nibbles > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/01/2016 at 19:14

Agree with Logansteno. Turbos are a pain to plumb for NA engines. You also need to add an intercooler, plumbing, blow off valve, boost controller, new injectors, among other things. A centrifugal supercharger is leagues easier to install and will provide a better boost profile for a torquey V8 like the 5.0.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > TahoeSTi
03/01/2016 at 19:28

But what would bolt on?

TheD0k_2many toys 2little time > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/02/2016 at 00:34

for 3k you can get a good running 5.0 that will make more than that. Also T5 is garbage when you add extra power too it. Need a built one

TahoeSTi > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/02/2016 at 10:07

T56, Tremec TR=-550.....nothing cheap sadly. The other option is do what i do and always have a spare....at the moment my spare needs to be rebuilt. Astroperformance.com has some strong rebuild options. Better than Geforce’s gear sets for sure.

TahoeSTi > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s
03/02/2016 at 10:24

Also don’t get a t5 from a v6 or 4 cyclnder you want to try to find a WorldClass t5 out of a later foxbody 5.0 or cobra. There were also some turcks with t5 that’s a bit stronger but even the strongest factory t5 is only rated for 300 lb./ft